I know Al Taubman has a wonderful sense of humor. I know Max really appreciates that about him. And they also used to like the idea of fixing Detroit. The idea that they could do something for Detroit. Marjorie, Max’s wife, will tell you that they used to sit outside and play a game, like it was sort of a Monopoly in their minds. And it used to be, "What can we do for Detroit?" And they would think of different parts of the town and what could they do here? And what would help this? And what would help that?