Interviewer: You are still working the phones, what makes you do that? I don’t know. It’s a fun living. You know something, what do you have? I’ve always believed—at the age of 65, I once told a man, he says, ‘You’ve got to retire.’ I said, ‘That’s the worst thing in the world.’ You’ve got to keep busy. You’ve got to keep your mind at work. And I just felt that these things meant a lot to me. I love politics. I love philanthropy. I love helping people. And I love the enjoyment of being in the business world. I think it’s what has kept me alive. I’m ninety-five and still do it everyday. I work everyday.