I was sitting with Marjorie and Max in their sunroom, in Franklin Hills, and Richard Nixon called him, while they were there—around three o’clock in the afternoon, I remember. And Richard Nixon admitted to him that everything they’ve been saying about him was true. It was very disheartening to Max. Up until that moment, would not allow himself to believe that a friend like Richard Nixon could possibly have done what they say he did. That’s one on his great attributes: is he’s loyal to his friends. And he was loyal to Richard Nixon up until—far later until he died.